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Those of you that have not heard from UCD yet are most likely on the unofficial wait list. I know there have been a couple students that have already been admitted off the wait list post-flyout. Also, the department just hired Tim Beatty away from Minnesota APEC at the Associate level.
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You must be a very slow driver....
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There were 7 or 8 TT placements last year, including international placements. But it was an above average year IMO.
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Please explain.
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A lot of students admitted to both Davis and Berkeley will take advantage of Davis' generous flyout to venture an hour down the road to visit Berkeley.
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You could be on the unofficial waiting list. There were quite a few students admitted off the wait list in April last year.
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Duke makes sense. I would take Wisconsin off your list. NC State is a mess; don't apply there. I also wouldn't apply to Colorado or Arizona. Davis has some very good resource people (Wilen, Sanchirico, Springborn). Costello at UCSB is good. ASU may be up and coming, but I think their environmental placements are still unproven. UCSD is also good.
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I don't know how things are at other ARE departments, but at Davis we take the same micro sequence and preliminary exam as the econ students. In recent years there is essentially zero difference in pass rates on the micro exam between the econ and ARE students. With respect to the relative weakness of ARE students. What is the basis for comparison? I think placement of Berkeley ARE is quite good and probably better than many top 30 econ programs. And for a school like Davis there is a selection bias problem. Most of our students don't have any interest in going the traditional econ route. On average, our students want to place into applied and interdisciplinary departments. For instance, our best student from last year's job market class turned down a funded top 20 econ spot to come to Davis. He placed into an econ department at a university that was a great fit for his geographic and research preferences, but probably below his potential given the quality of his JMP.
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Don't go anywhere unfunded when you have a funded offer. If Ohio State is funding you for the PhD program then go there over Oregon State MS and Wisconsin unfunded MS.
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I wouldn't worry about that at all. I think their expectation is about 50% will have superior offers and will go elsewhere. Funny anecdote: During my flyout I spent a bit of time talking with Jim Wilen at the bar. I asked him if the department would revoke my fellowship if I drank too much and made a fool of myself that night. On the contrary, he said, if I were to do that they would probably make me a more generous fellowship offer.
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Cool. I found it to be a fun experience and it was not a trivial factor in my ultimate decision to come here. From what I hear there will be a potluck with no shortage of beer and probably a night of bar-hopping. I encourage everyone invited to take advantage of the free trip out to Davis to drink and have fun for a couple days, regardless of the probability of matriculation.
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Who all is coming to the Davis flyout?
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I'm not aware of any econ students working with ARE faculty. But the opposite is not uncommon (formerly with Knittel and now with Bushnell). I would rank Berkeley ARE over Davis econ and ARE.
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Last year matriculation off the flyout list was less than 50%. The year before I think it was about 60%. If things go like they did last year then perhaps the chances are good.
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Wouldn't it be easier just to talk to that one guy that's down the hall from you?? I'm sure he has a good idea of what recent placements are. Haha.
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I would rank Cornell behind both Davis and Maryland. For ag and resource economics, Davis clearly dominates. I'm not a development person, but my guess is there is not much difference between Davis and Cornell in that respect. The historical criticism against Davis is the lack of good environmental people. But with recent additions of Cynthia Lin, Katrina Jessoe, Kevin Novan, and now Dalia Ghanem that may be shifting.
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Regarding Oregon State: Maybe this is common knowledge, but just in case it is not. Andrew Plantinga is now at the Bren School. Oregon State still has Junjie Wu and Christian Langpap, who are both good. Moreover, I believe David Lewis was hired for next year and they also hired David Kling from UC Davis.
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Last year they admitted all 6 master's students that wanted to transfer into the PhD program. But I believe that is uncommon.
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For anyone considering UCD: Kevin Novan was hired last year as an environmental and energy guy. This year they will be hiring in econometrics, either at the Associate or Assistant level.
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History has shown that UC Davis admits outside PhD applicants in late January. Then they admit students from their existing master's class just before the deadline.
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There are some prestigious postdocs out there. Stanford's SIEPR for instance. But, more generally, postdocs are not considered a good placement. My feeling is that people do postdocs with the intention of generating a publication or two and then hitting the job market again after a couple years.
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My point is that going to Maryland econ will not undermine one's ability to place in an ARE department. And in my opinion there is greater potential for placing in a (good) ARE department coming from Maryland econ as opposed to Davis ARE. I suspect the reason there are few (no?) recent ARE placements from Maryland is due to preferences and not due to an inability to place in applied departments. On the other hand, one's academic prospects coming from Davis ARE are likely going to be restricted to lower ranked ARE departments.
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I do not agree with this conclusion. In my opinion Maryland would provide strictly better placement opportunities in academia. Even if the goal was to ultimately end up in an ARE department I would still argue that Maryland econ would be the better option. Job Placement History | Department of Economics, University of Maryland
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I assume you are referring to Wolff at Washington. If rumors are believed to be true, then it seems he is not very happy at Washington. So I might be wary of heading to Washington with the expectation that Wolff will be there 4 or 5 years from now. The other obvious thing to consider are prelims. I think it is the case recently that Washington has had significant attrition on the exams. At Wisconsin you would not have such worries. In my mind, the best thing going for Washington is its location and its strength in fisheries. However, it seems that these days all the research involving fisheries is happening outside the economics department. If I were in your position I would be favoring Wisconsin at this point (without knowing what your specific interests are).
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Maryland is a top 20 econ program. Their placements are far better than any ag program, aside from Berkeley ARE.