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Hi, thanks a lot in advance to everyone willling to give me her/his advise Age: 29 Nationality: INDIAN GMAT - 730 (Q50 95% V38 84%) - given First Time ( I know this is not very high score in my demographic group:( ) Education:Engineering (Electronics and Comm) from top 10 colleges of India Percentage- 79% which is not too bad keeping in mind topper was 86% so it guess 90 percentile Work experience: 7.5 year as software developer and team leader for some time.(Mobile Communications Area) Extra curricular: Not Too Bad 1) In Scholl days particpated at state level in roller skating 2) Vice Captian of School 3)Given best student award at school 4) Gen Sec of IEE/IEEE branch of college 5) Won few prizes in technical competitions in inter college festivals I am working in Uk since last few years and I want to apply for LBS. I have following Queriws 1) Do I have some chance in fourth round or fourth round is generally very difficult? 2) If I apply in fourth round and fail to make, would it negatively impact my chance when I reapply next year @ LBS 3)Due to personal resons I want to apply only in UK. Should i apply for Oxford next year? I prefer LBS but if my chances of acceptance are grim @ LSB, I will then try at Oxford as well Kindly Reply Thanks vellajain

Hi GMater-1, Mba_asp,rainbownlife Thanks for your wishes. Crazy One : The study pattern would differ from each individual to individual But overall I would say that your plan seem good to me. Give a diagnostic test and find what is your weakest area. Try to devote more time on it. By weak area I mean , you should come be able to pinpoint the subgroup like saying I am weak in reading Comprehension rtaher than just saying i am weak in Verbal. 2) OG is must , so it is good to start with it. 3) I have not used Kaplan premier so cannnot comment 4) Kaplan 800 is for difficult Qs so best to leave untill u are done with other books Hope this Helps!

Gave my GMAt Test Yesterday Q 50 V 38 Overall 730 Not too bad. I am happy although I was expecting 750:) Quant Test Level- Same as GmatPrep I spend only 10 minutes for first 8 question. Probably i got some qs wrong in earlier Qs that cost me some marks in Quant. I was expecting a score of 51. I did not see any too tough Qs. One or two probabaility Qs but doable Verbal Test Level- Same as GMAT Prep again 4 RC all easy and understandable although few Qs were tricky CR - I was ok in CR so it was ok SC - Same level as OG , doable . While studying I spend 70% of my verbal time on SC still SC was my weakest area and still is . I believe I got quite a few wrong in my exam else I would have got a higher score in verbal may be v40 (Human greediness its never enough:) ) I am aware what I did wrong in SC , I am writing my mistake here so that others can learn from my mistake If I were to study SC again I would ( well were is correct here as it is subjenctive mood ) 1) Get a good and concise grammer book and study it 2) Buy manhattan SC book - I bought is so late that i rcvd it only one day before my exam :p. I did not read much but others have highly recommdeded it 3) Be Active Reader- I was studying SC like a novel and while reading I was sleeping in between. Wake up and continue.... I did not log the issues I found. My suggestion: Whevere you find new idiom / new rule / your mistake log it in your notebook and it would be good to revise them. In nutshell be a active reader and not a passive reader like I was :sleepy: The Books I used and liked for SC 1) Kaplan Verbal Book- The grammer in appendix is very good , concise and to the point , hats off 2) Kaplan 800 - I liked as it has good Qs and good explanations 3) The Bible offcourse- OG OG is must for everything. The level of explanations is really great. Writer has taken pains to explain why some choice r wrong Background - Indian, Engineer as most of us these days:) Had I given GMAt in my school days I would have definately got 51 in Quant. I am not bragging but just want to say that most of us might have forgotten few things Most of us have rusted memories and we just need to sharpen it by practise and devoting some time In one mock tests I got one Qs wrong as I was unable to find LCM correctly, that was a shock to me as well as an eye opener. I realized due to heavy reliance on computers and calc I have rusted and I need some practise as well.Untill my college days i did not use calc so my calculation were good The I learned to be humble and ready to learn/revise key things Last Word of Advice - To succeed in test i think following are important 1) Commitment 2) Consistency - I was devoting time on wekends but hardly on weekdays. Its no good. Consistency is very important and one should try to spend some time on weekdays as well 3) Confidence- YES YOU CAN DO IT Paint a positive picture for the test day. I am generally overconfident so that was fine for me.... 4)Alertness - Specially in Q DS , it is a slippery road. They want to you slip . You have to be alert and ask few Qs before ansering a) Number may not be integer - so check for fraction b) Number may not be positive- so double check for -ve number etc I belive - Be sincere, have good intentions, work hard, give your best shot and then leave everything to God. Donot worry too much about your scores this is just a small, although important, part of selection Test Center Environment was quite good and staff was helpful. Do take something to eat and drink and make good use of breaks

Thanks Nick and mkumar!

Hi , Can I assume the writer as "Female" Well I am not a sexist but I read somewhere when gender of the person is unknown, it is acceptable in formal english to assume the (unknown ) person as Female So i frequently write something like Author needs to provide more evidence to support "HER" Argument. Is it Acceptable in GMAT land ?? Else how can i get round this issue??? Please reply as test date is 17March , it would be a pity if I loose marks beacause of this isssue Thanks

Congrats Bearkill , wonderfull score ! Very nice debrief. Can you please add your GMAT Perp Scores. Can someone pls answer, I will highly appreciate 1) What is Cheat Sheet?? 2) how can i get explanation of answers of Qs in GMATPrep 3) I am unable to download as i am a new member. My test date is 17th March. Can someone send the same to me? i will give my email address using PM . Thanks vj

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Hi All I gave a gMAT Prep test1 and I can see only the answers but no explanation of answers. Does this mean that GMAT Prep does not have explanation of ansers for the test 1 and 2 or am I missing something? Someone please reply as my test date is 17th March and I want to check the solutions! Thanks vjain

My Test Date is 17th March Someone kindly let me know if I need further improvents for achievingmy aim of scoring 4.0+

Hi Singhaman Thanks for the information. I will work on your suggestions All the best for your future plans! Vjain

I read somehwre that 400 should be quite enough Although i manage to write 300- 340 only!

ESSAY QUESTION: "Employees should expect no privacy while on the job, even when engaging in personal communication via telephone or e-mail. Employers are paying for their employees' time and have a reasonable expectation that this time is spent solely on work-related activities." Discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the position stated above. Support your views with reasons and examples from your own experience, observations, or reading. The issue that employee should not expect privacy while on job is controversial one. This issue is increasingly important in this age of digital world when employee has many methods round the clock such as telephone, mobile,email,chat room, face book etc to communicate with his/her family or friend. Many people believe such a use of resources for personal reasons while on job is immoral and detrimental to the company that is paying for empolyee's time. I perosnally believe that if such actions happen within limits it is good for employees and may even help the employer by incrasing worker efficiency.I will elaborate key points further. To start with, humans are not robots. Humans can and need to express their emotions.Their efficiency depends not only on their work experience but also depend lot on their emotional state.Many a times we feel quite better after talking to our family or friends. Parents feel happy after seeing their child playing etc. This the reason in big corporation like Cisco and others , they have a child minding facility in house. Employees with very young child can leave their children in their nursery and can see them anytime they like. The company know that it is better an employee waste 10 or 20 minute but work the rest of her time very efficiently rather than working so called 8 hours with her half mind worrying about her child. Secondly, most of the employees are mature enough not to misutilze the facilities given by employer.Nevertheless I agree with the other view, if an employee misuses the facilities he/she may need to be cautioned and suitable further action may be required. Furthermore, if company restrict the use of these facilities, their action may be seen as draconian and create a resentment in the workers. Such an action may have detrimental affect on the employee morale. In conclusion, I would say that strict restrictions on use of telephones or email would harm the company more than helping it. Decent use of these resource within limits would help in increased productivity , employee satisfaction and better employee-employer relations. _____________________________________________________ With this kind of response Can i expect 4.0+ ? Thanks in advance

i think OA shoulb be B

Hi Dwarrior & Anand Thanks for explaing the scenerio in detail. I understand the logic behind it now. One More Query! I read also that in case where clockwise and anticlockwise scenerio do not matter No of permumations for N objects = (n-1)! /2 Can someone give a example when the anticlockwise and clockwise sceneri does not matter. In the test Qs can I assume that direction does matter unless otherwise explicitly stated?

1) In how many ways 6 people can be arranged in round table conference A) 120 B) 720 C) 60 D)24 E) 15 CAN SOMEONE please explain why round table sitting is different from normal permutations. I have good idea about Normal permutation theory can some also point to some link where key ring probabability is explained Thanks vj

good thinking windriver After reading your answer I am giving my theory (which may be wrong :) )but if right will help others to solve this kind of Qs easliy 1) If there are two sets A with median Ma and Set B with Median Bb and if we combine these two set and make Set C Its median Mc will lie between Ma and Mb i.e if Ma> Mb then Mb else if Mb Ma So if apply this to Qs new median will atleast be 78 and at max be = 80 Since average = 77.xx whatever be exact value of median it will always be less than new median Ans A

I think this is simple Qs (Generally when I think qs is simple I miss something so pls confirm OA) 3 B can be picked in 4 ways 3B 0R 2B 1R 1B 2R 0B 3R Is answer 4?

Hi Singhman heartiest congratulations on your great score. I have following queries 1) I just gave a Verbal test from Kaplan Verbal Textbook and got 27R + 14 W In most tests I get around similiar results (around 1/3 wrong in Verbal) Do you remeber how much was your success rate in verbal in OG , kaplan etc 2) I am also from Eng Backround ( as almost every Indian these days!) and my maths is fine. I am now aware of the concepts tested in OG. But somepeople tell that OG is little outdated and do not cover well topics like statistics(standard deviatetion etc) , pprobabalility, combinations permutations. If I have covered these topics through Kaplan 800 CD and OG should it be ok or would you recommend me to try deltacourse etc. Thanks

Heres the answer Soppose The Digit is ABCDE (ACE are Odd Num, BD -> Even) Since the digit can be repeated once once we have no issue with even digit number But with Odd suppose you have 1X1XY => Y can have only four values i.e3579 But in a case where first and third digit are differnt , last digit can have any of the five values So to solve this question we need to add these two scenerios 1) Scenerio where 1 and 3 digit are same A can have 5 values (1,3,5,7,9) B can have 5 values (0,)2,4,6,8, C can have 1 value whatever is first digit D can have 5 values (0,)2,4,6,8, =>One repeitition is allowed E can have four values as odd digit has been repeated already and you are not allowed any further repitition = 5*5*1*5*4 = 500 2) Scenerio where 1 and 3 digit are diferent A can have 5 values (1,3,5,7,9) B can have 5 values (0,)2,4,6,8, C can have 4 value any odd number except first digit D can have 5 values (0,)2,4,6,8, =>One repeitition is allowed E can have 5 values as odd digit is not yet repeated and you are allowed a repitition = 5*5*4*5*5 = 2500 Total = 500 +2500 = 3000 Please confirm if it right answer Hope this Helps!

I personnaly liked the RC explanation in PR and Kaplan. I like PRs ying yang approach and suggestion always be on alert for any shifts in the authors tone passage and never bother too much details (It is a diffrent story that I still get many answers wrong especially in SC and RC, well Verbal is my weak area anyway:)

Congrats Buddy ! Awesome Score

i read somewhere it can come in any order

Ans is A as 2) Is not suffiient since 2 Now m can be 3 and p can be 10 Remainder = 1 m = 5 p =6 => R =1 HOWEVER m = 6 P = 10 R = 4 i.e > 1 So R may or may not be greater than 1 Statement (I): Since 2 is the greatest common factor, both numbers are even. If you divide an even number by another, the remainder is always an even number. So min. value of r is 2, which is greater than 1. Sufficient

great kartikayek , i would have never been able to solve this question ! very nice Qs.Can we expect Qs of this difficult in GMAT?

It is permutation problem , thereofire ans is 5!/3! Had it been acombination problem ans would have been 1 as there is only 1 way of selecting 5 letters(remeber in comb word order does not matter!)