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Are those all the topics covered in that one class?

At least for domestic students, almost everybody is funded at UBC IIRC. And it's interesting seeing the course descriptions for the "Advanced"/PhD track courses in that link, obviously there's probably a difference in how rigorously each topic is taught but the topics in the advanced courses line up almost exactly with the MA micro/metrics courses at UBC.

I'd be willing to bet that OP is

Out of those schools, I'd be willing to bet UBC takes more international students than the other 4 combined in a given year.

I know of one PhD student here that came straight from a UBC BA. I thought that was a little odd, but apparently UBC allows their own BAs to skip the MA and go directly into the PhD program.

I'm personally finding it pretty damn difficult and I'd reckon I have at least as much math training as the average domestic student in my class if not more. But pretty much anyone outside of the top few (Ie. Either very very good intuition and technical skills or simply a math undergrad) in the class is finding the material pretty difficult. Everyone I've talked to who have done the MA and gone onto the PhD program here agreed the jump from undergrad to MA is much worse than the jump from MA to PhD. That makes me wonder just how good the people jumping straight from undergrad to a PhD must be.

Theoretically, you could do the year of school and try to pick up a RA position for the gap year if you don't apply for a PhD program straight away.

What were your grades like in your math/econ courses? All I know about european programs is that they're gonna cost you a good chunk of money. As for Canadian programs, I wouldn't bother applying to Queen's or UWO as an international student, the competition is just too intense and unfortunately I don't think your application is gonna put you at the very top of that list. I'm not sure about McGill, but I think Toronto is also pretty picky about taking international students. They should be better than UWO/Queens though. UBC takes by far the most international students out of the Canadian MA programs, probably more than all the Canadian schools you named take combined.

Not sure why this thread got so derailed but to go back to the OP's situation, I'd say if you don't have a burning desire to do a PhD, try your hand at a MA first. It's been quite an eye opener for me so far in terms of difficulty and really reevaluating a lot of things including my interest in certain topics and economics in general. If you have a stellar UG background, doing a good MA program will either only give you better information on what you want to do or help you realize you don't want to spend another 4-6 years of your life in school.

I took a numerical analysis course, which focused on applications on economics problems. Was very interesting and taught me a lot of coding, but I don't think I'd say it's particularly useful in general.

That's either the most intense course I've ever seen or I'm missing something. I took a course dedicated to just linear programming (ended up being a waste of time) during undergrad, not sure how one single course could cover all of those topics in less than 4 months .

The VSE's course offerings are available online on their website. And from what I've read here, unless your performance in a MA program is stellar, it does nothing but perhaps make you a safer bet than another undergrad applicant (which may be a good thing or a bad thing).

Last year's MA-to-PhD placements were disappointing for UBC imo. Out of 6 applicants, 4 remained at UBC (2 also had Toronto offers) and 1 went elsewhere.

Again just providing anecdotal evidence for UBC here but last year's PhD cohort has 2 UBC MA grads out of 10 shown online, and I believe the incoming PhD class has 4 UBC MA grads out of 10.

I can't say for other places but UBC does have rare direct entry acceptances. Looking at the past cohorts, for the last 4 years they have at least one student still listed on the page (ie. passed comps and stuck around) who only has a bachelors.

Are you just talking about MA programs that provide funding? Every Canadian MA program funds students (not necessarily all of its students but almost all)

Hmm, I guess I was mistaken for thinking UToronto took a good number of international students. I guess then it's just UBC.

Where have those programs placed? McMaster isn't particularly known for placing students into PhD programs, I thought they were more of a terminal MA kind of place.

As for Canadian programs, I'd say apply to both UBC and Toronto for MA programs, those two are the biggest MA programs and certainly take way more international students than anywhere else.

I don't know if I'd say UWO's method of "if you do well in your MA, you are welcome to continue onto a PhD" is really all that unique. Since OP mentioned SFU, SFU also has the exact same option, it's just not exactly common knowledge. With that said, I'm pretty sure I read on the SFU department website that students that excel at the MA level are given the option to transfer into a PhD without applying. I also know that's a possibility at McMaster, pretty sure you don't have to reapply. But back to UWO, I do agree that they seem to take a lot of students out of engineering/math backgrounds over traditional econ applicants so that might work for you OP.

I just don't get why you're so set on doing a MBA instead of a MA Econ if your ultimate goal is an econ PhD

I'm personally curious what school he attends/attended that offered a course in Austrian economics

I think Calgary has a decent reputation among Canadian schools, it's just one of the lower profile schools since most people are from BC/ON/QC and would like to go to schools in one of those 3 provinces. As for how it ranks, I think it's a solid second tier econ department behind the big 4. As for job prospects, I think U of Calgary's dept is known for energy stuff so should be good for the energy market. Probably a good thing too since there are lots of private sector jobs in energy since if you're an international student you won't be able to land public sector jobs.

I don't think a programming background will help your application much, but from what I've seen, STATA is the main micro/metrics package although R is creeping into the metrics side. I'm not too sure about macro, although I've heard of both R and MATLAB being used on the macro side. But if you want to talk about the main programming languages, C/C++ probably is your best bet. Take a look at this paper - obviously if they're comparing, then they must all be used to some extent or another. http://economics.sas.upenn.edu/~jesusfv/comparison_languages.pdf

Why exactly do you want to pursue another degree? I don't want to sound like an *** but I really don't think you'll get into any good schools with your background without taking some undergrad courses to improve your application. Taking a few courses would be a much better idea than to take a whole another degree...