2014 PhD Business Administration Admissions/Waiting/Sweating thread

[snickers]

Maybe I should post this as a separate thread but.. Is it true that assistant professors/Junior professors can not advise PhD students?

 

A prof from one of the schools told me when I said I'm leaning towards another school as I want to work with some of the latter's new hires.

[phdacc2014]

Maybe I should post this as a separate thread but.. Is it true that assistant professors/Junior professors can not advise PhD students?

 

A prof from one of the schools told me when I said I'm leaning towards another school as I want to work with some of the latter's new hires.

 

I'm not entirely sure if it's possible or not (I thought it was until you posted this). However, I'd think for the most part, you should look for a tenured professor to be your advisor (recent tenured professors would be ideal in my opinion since they would most likely still be research active to achieve full professor status, although a lot of full professors are also research active). They are more experienced, have bigger networks (good when entering job market), and are more likely to stay at the school since they're tenured. The only advantage of junior faculty is that they're probably working harder to get published, but you should be able to work with them regardless of whether they're your advisor or not. That's my take on it at least.

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I'm not entirely sure if it's possible or not (I thought it was until you posted this). However, I'd think for the most part, you should look for a tenured professor to be your advisor (recent tenured professors would be ideal in my opinion since they would most likely still be research active to achieve full professor status, although a lot of full professors are also research active). They are more experienced, have bigger networks (good when entering job market), and are more likely to stay at the school since they're tenured. The only advantage of junior faculty is that they're probably working harder to get published, but you should be able to work with them regardless of whether they're your advisor or not. That's my take on it at least.

 

Ya, that was my take too! But as though I am not confused enough, I have faculty members from this particular university who keep giving me advice, some of which is unsolicited.

 

Thanks phdacc2014.

[nmktg]

Maybe I should post this as a separate thread but.. Is it true that assistant professors/Junior professors can not advise PhD students?

 

A prof from one of the schools told me when I said I'm leaning towards another school as I want to work with some of the latter's new hires.

 

it probably varies by school, but i know of a couple cases where a student had an assistant prof advisor who didn't get tenure and had to leave. in one case, the student moved with the advisor to a new school. in the other, they stayed behind and tried to make it work long distance. it seems risky in either case.

[AppInfo]

Maybe I should post this as a separate thread but.. Is it true that assistant professors/Junior professors can not advise PhD students?

 

A prof from one of the schools told me when I said I'm leaning towards another school as I want to work with some of the latter's new hires.

 

I imagine it depends on the school, but regardless of whether or not they are your advisers you should be able to work with the junior faculty. The rather sage advice I got (from multiple sources) was to look for a school with at least one senior and one junior faculty that you want to work with. That way you get the best of both worlds.

[gc98835]

The rather sage advice I got (from multiple sources) was to look for a school with at least one senior and one junior faculty that you want to work with. That way you get the best of both worlds.

 

Got the exact same advice.

[snickers]

I imagine it depends on the school, but regardless of whether or not they are your advisers you should be able to work with the junior faculty. The rather sage advice I got (from multiple sources) was to look for a school with at least one senior and one junior faculty that you want to work with. That way you get the best of both worlds.

 

Thanks AppInfo :)

[umeshiv]

Has anyone heard anything from Ross Business School, Michigan for the Strategy department (Interview/admit /reject) ?

[amiry]

I just did did something relieving.

 

After receiving a very rude rejection e-mail with couple of grammatical errors, I responded the e-mail and CCed the Ph.D. coordinator to correct the grammatical errors for the next round. I know it sounds unprofessional, but after spending days to make sure that an essay reads as good as it could, I felt so offended to receive such a response. Probably they rejected many people based on their verbal score lol!

[XanthusARES]

I just did did something relieving.

 

After receiving a very rude rejection e-mail with couple of grammatical errors, I responded the e-mail and CCed the Ph.D. coordinator to correct the grammatical errors for the next round. I know it sounds unprofessional, but after spending days to make sure that an essay reads as good as it could, I felt so offended to receive such a response. Probably they rejected many people based on their verbal score lol!

 

I'm not positive this was a good idea. The academic community is small bro (or sis). Word could get around.

 

That being said I bet it felt awesome and wish I had the courage to do it.

[amiry]

I totally agree. It was not the best idea although I did not say anything rude except doing something very eccentric. I noticed that couple of other applicants had gotten offended with that email.

 

It just felt right.

[mindrew]

I just did did something relieving.

 

After receiving a very rude rejection e-mail with couple of grammatical errors, I responded the e-mail and CCed the Ph.D. coordinator to correct the grammatical errors for the next round. I know it sounds unprofessional, but after spending days to make sure that an essay reads as good as it could, I felt so offended to receive such a response. Probably they rejected many people based on their verbal score lol!

 

Hahaha! Dude/Dude-ette, that's pretty awesome! Good for you!

 

The PhD Coordinator hopefully will not mind the corrections. I hope academics welcome feedback, or at least are used to having their papers corrected by others. Not sure how much their Grad Office appreciates your assistance though!

 

Please let us know if they respond to your corrections!

[tradingplaces]

I just did did something relieving.

 

After receiving a very rude rejection e-mail with couple of grammatical errors, I responded the e-mail and CCed the Ph.D. coordinator to correct the grammatical errors for the next round. I know it sounds unprofessional, but after spending days to make sure that an essay reads as good as it could, I felt so offended to receive such a response. Probably they rejected many people based on their verbal score lol!

 

If it was rude on top of being grammatically incorrect i think it is okay if you did it jn a classy way.

 

The proletariat will only stand so much from the bourgiouse. ;)

[XanthusARES]

The proletariat will only stand so much from the bourgiouse. ;)

 

Best. Post. Ever.

 

As a former communist I both agree with and appreciate this response. Add to the fact that this is a business PhD forum, where I assume the needle probably tends to swing right, you are now my hero.

[tradingplaces]

Best. Post. Ever.

 

As a former communist I both agree with and appreciate this response. Add to the fact that this is a business PhD forum, where I assume the needle probably tends to swing right, you are now my hero.

 

Thanks, im actually an expat overseas,.. And rather inebriated at the moment.,, thanks for compliment and i have always silently enjoyed your posts, ^^

[eventualprof]

The proletariat will only stand so much from the bourgiouse. ;)

 

In the words of Chuck D, "Fight the power!"

 

I'm curious what brings a former socialist closer to the middle, Xanth. I would describe myself as a former capitalist that has moved toward the middle after witnessing poor stewardship of wealth by those that have control of it. Maybe age just pulls us all away from our initial ideals. And maybe that is why PhD programs tend toward the selection of younger applicants, the young ones still believe in utopian possibilities. Nevertheless, I'll still endeavor to dream up some interesting research.

[AppInfo]

Out of curiosity, is it considered poor form to share with one school the financial package you got from another in an effort to get them to increase theirs. I suspect there is a limit to what they can do and I don't want to offend anyone by asking since I'll be looking for a job in a lot of the same places in a few years.

[tradingplaces]

In the words of Chuck D, "Fight the power!"

 

I'm curious what brings a former socialist closer to the middle, Xanth. I would describe myself as a former capitalist that has moved toward the middle after witnessing poor stewardship of wealth by those that have control of it. Maybe age just pulls us all away from our initial ideals. And maybe that is why PhD programs tend toward the selection of younger applicants, the young ones still believe in utopian possibilities. Nevertheless, I'll still endeavor to dream up some interesting research.

 

Hehe. Fight the power was def, more me in college, even if it was more of a whimper than yelling. Hehe.

 

i was also a communist idealogue in college, but more in the sense of brotherhood and equality among class and races.

 

I probably did a bigger 180 than xanth by going straight into the jaws of investment banking capitalism after graduation.

 

one day, i do believe that trickle up economics will reign, even if there is no foundation money in it... :orange:

[XanthusARES]

In the words of Chuck D, "Fight the power!"

 

I'm curious what brings a former socialist closer to the middle, Xanth. I would describe myself as a former capitalist that has moved toward the middle after witnessing poor stewardship of wealth by those that have control of it. Maybe age just pulls us all away from our initial ideals. And maybe that is why PhD programs tend toward the selection of younger applicants, the young ones still believe in utopian possibilities. Nevertheless, I'll still endeavor to dream up some interesting research.

 

We'll call my former socialism the result of a combination of youthful ignorance and being easily swayed by the writing of Karl Marx. Honestly I still swing pretty far left, but I realize that socialism leaves a gap in power. As long as there are people willing to fill that gap, i.e. as long as there are humans, it will never work correctly. At least large scale, small local socialist governments would be an interesting case study. I can't go any more right because I've been at too many companies that are run by human beings. Even if they want to do good, they are mostly selfish. I just have an issue with a CEO unwilling to take a small pay cut, still make over $1 million annually, and claim that he has to fire workers because taxes are too high.

 

I actually chose my research path because I'm really interested in how people think. I agree that as we age we tend to solidify our views towards the middle, and that is probably why PhD acceptances tend to swing younger. That and the fact that younger people are more likely to accept new ideas and not challenge the system (as much as they like to believe they are doing the exact opposite).

[XanthusARES]

Out of curiosity, is it considered poor form to share with one school the financial package you got from another in an effort to get them to increase theirs. I suspect there is a limit to what they can do and I don't want to offend anyone by asking since I'll be looking for a job in a lot of the same places in a few years.

 

Negotiations of stipends were somewhat discussed in a previous thread. Do a quick search for negotiation. I think that it might not hurt to ask for a little more, but bear in mind that most programs have pretty strictly set budgets, they offer you as much as they can. So my advice would be to go ahead and ask, but tread lightly. I probably wouldn't bring up the other schools offer, because they might just tell you to go with that school. Others on here might disagree, though. Let's see what other people think.

[gc98835]

Hi guys, after an eventful past month, I finally accepted an offer at MIT Sloan (IT program) and withdrew from all other programs. It is indeed a dream come true due to perfect research fit. :monkey:

 

Anyone else joining MIT? PM me please.

[hailmary]

Out of curiosity, is it considered poor form to share with one school the financial package you got from another in an effort to get them to increase theirs.

 

I'm not sure if you can do much about the current package. But what I would definitely ask / try to negotiate is whether or not your stipend will increase over the course of the program. Usually, schools raise stipends every year or every couple of years for the incoming class (cost of living, to be competitive, etc.) . But they don't always raise all stipends for all years. At my husband's program, for the first couple of years - incoming students were making over $5k more than older students. Once they realized this, the students banded together and asked for equal stipends across all years. As long as the PI was willing to pay it, they were able to get it. Even if it's just a few thousand dollars difference, every little bit helps!

[ArcticApplicant]

Hi guys, after an eventful past month, I finally accepted an offer at MIT Sloan (IT program) and withdrew from all other programs. It is indeed a dream come true due to perfect research fit. :monkey:e.

 

Congratulations gc, a well deserved end to a long journey.

[zwqt]

Finally I confirmed UC Irvine's offer for Marketing (Quant) PhD and declined the offers from Purdue U (Marketing) and UIUC (Econ PhD program). UC Irvine is in the middle tier of my business school's application list, but I have never dreamed of entering business school since nobody I know did that and nobody told me I can. Through this year's application, I got so blessed and at last I meet a new me. So nice to have you guys here, see you in California then. :encouragement:

[Iya]

Out of curiosity, is it considered poor form to share with one school the financial package you got from another in an effort to get them to increase theirs. I suspect there is a limit to what they can do and I don't want to offend anyone by asking since I'll be looking for a job in a lot of the same places in a few years.

 

Well, I replied a program and told them the offer was okay and then asked if there are additional scholarships that I could apply for to augment the stipend?. Three days later I got an offer with the same stipend and a scholarship that provided a nice and significant increase.

 

But I was very nervous about doing that. I knew though that accepting the offer as it was was going to be challenging since I would have two kids in school and did not want to assume my spouse would find work right away.