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Hey guys!! You know, it's easy to post an analogy with hard vocab that not many people can answer; you can find these questions all over the place. What I like to do sometimes, to "force" people to focus ONLY on the relationship and NOT on the vocab, is make a difficult analogy that is difficult because of the relationship, and NOT because of the vocab. These questions are hard to write, so I only have a few. Take a look at this one, and let me know what you think. I'm trying very hard to create a great place for people all over the world to come to study, and I hope that you will take the time to register and post questions and answers. Therefore, I will wait a little while before I post the answer, in hope that some of you will register and post your answers and the reason(s) you chose that answer. So, here's the analogy: TIRE : RUBBER O fork : metal O tree : wood O glass : silica O candle : wax O pottery : clay Hope you like this question and find it helpful!! Erin Erin Billy TestMagic.com San Francisco, CA USA
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Yes, you are absolutely right; (D) is the best answer. The key here is that we need to somehow make a difference (D) and all the other answer choices. ETS will try to trick you if you make a relatively simple analogy, like "a tire is made of rubber," since all the answer choices work with that sentence. So, we need to realize that we must refine our sentence. The best sentence that connects the two words is something like this: "A tire/candle is primarily composed of rubber/wax, and in the process of using a tire/candle, the rubber/wax gets used up." Make sense? Hope so!!
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Hi Erin! This really was a nice question and definitely had me in trouble too.I would like to answer the question that synthia has put up.The correct choice is (d) because wax gets used up on consumption of candle just as rubber gets used up on gradual use or consumption of tyre.On the other hand it can't be any of the other choices or the fork:metal as metal gets used up in the making process and not in the consumption process. I hope u've got it. Hey Erin..post some more of such analogies.....
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This is simpler one,but gotit wrong one first attempt!help me with this one! NEEDLE:KNIT:: A.loom:weave B.soap:wash C.bed:sleep D.bait:fish E:match:fire I have the answer,ill post it after receiving few of ur answers!See Ya, Mesh
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Hi, while solving analogies we should concentrate mainly on the relationship between the clue and the solution. Foe ex: carpenter:saw as Seamstress:scissors. Here, the relationship is that both are used to cut. Similarly, in our case, knitting and weaving are both done on fabric. this must be the answer. So, it becomes imperative that we try to figure out the solution based on the similarities in the two.
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[quote][i]Originally posted by synthia[/i] I read this only today! I wish to know how Fork-metal does not work out. fork is also composed of metal and in the process of making a fork, metal gets used up??!!![/quote]Good question! Think of it this way--a fork is NOT designed for the metal to be used up, right? But a candle and tire are. In doing analogies, the most important thing is first, to find the "quintessential" relationship between the stem wordsl. The second most important thing is to figure out how specific we want to make the analogy, or, as I think of it, "how deep do we go???" You mentioned CARPENTER : SAW, right? So, for an easy Analogy, we could say that "tool" is the relationship. But say we have a lot of "tool" answer choices. Then we need to "go deeper," or refine our relationship to various other things--it cuts, it's a hand tool, it doesn't require a motor or electricity, that sort of thing. HTH!! Erin
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[quote][i]Originally posted by Mesh[/i] This is simpler one,but gotit wrong one first attempt!help me with this one! NEEDLE:KNIT:: A.loom:weave B.soap:wash C.bed:sleep D.bait:fish E:match:fire I have the answer,ill post it after receiving few of ur answers!See Ya, Mesh [/quote]Hey Mesh, First, could you post the answer with the question? I think that will be helpful. If people want to challenge themselves, they can just cover up the answer. Second, this is not a good analogy--the question is not well written. Look at all the answers on the righthand side--are they all verbs? "to fire"?? The relationship here is TOOL. X is the primary tool (not the material) used in Y, the process of creating something. How's that? Erin
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hi Erin, This question was taken frm Big Book...so blame them for ne mistakes,not me.Thanx for the explanation! Also do lemme know wheter experimental section has been taken off.I also heard tht nowadays more 3-D Games r asked in Analytical Section!That is bit discouraging since i have only 10 days for test and I have practised frm Barrons and bigbook which have only few 3-D problems!And if 3-D games do come wht shud be the approach? -Mesh
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[quote][i]Originally posted by synthia[/i] Hi Erin, I don't get it.Tool and not fabric??!?? thinking in those lines, match becomes the tool,doesn't it? [/quote]Hi synthia, I don't think of matches as tools--they get used up while you are using them for their intended purpose whereas tools continue to exist even after you've finished using them. Agree?
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[quote][i]Originally posted by Mesh[/i] hi Erin, This question was taken frm Big Book...so blame them for ne mistakes,not me.Thanx for the explanation![/quote]Can you tell me where in the Big Book? Which page number? Or which test number? I'd like to take a look at it myself. Thanks, mesh.
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[quote][i]Originally posted by Mesh[/i] this one's confusing.... DEPART : ABSCOND :: A. store : secrete B. close : occlude C. speak : harangue D. intervene : interfere E. cover : eclipse And the rite answer is E...but how?<from Big Book>[/quote]The best answer is A: To secrete is to store [b]secretly[/b]; to abscond is to depart [b]secretly[/b]. In other words, the relationship is "secret form."
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]TIRE : RUBBER X is made of Y and is not natural O fork : metal >> fork need not be necessarily made of metal O tree : wood >> Yes but it is natural O glass : silica glass need not be necessarily made of silica [B]O candle : wax [/B] O pottery : clay >> pottery need not be necessarily with clay [/FONT][/COLOR]
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