vectorSpace Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I owe a lot to this forum and its people. I'm not exactly over the moon, but feel happy and content in a strange way. Obv, I plan to post a debrief soon - I'm honestly quite burnt out right now. ~vectorSpace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBAY Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 You murdered the quant section. Nice job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aru4912 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Congrats dude !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikSharma Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 nicely done - congrats... awesome dude....congrats... what schools are you targeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs123 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 congrats, U cracked Quant. Give some tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otori Takeo Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Congrat. bro. i never had Q51 even in GPREP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorSpace Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 The 2-month strategy that worked for me Disclaimer : May not be applicable to all - take only what makes sense for you. Total Prep Time: 2 months(@ 1-2 hours/day on weekdays, and 4-8 hours/day on weekends) Resources: OG 11, GMAT Sets, Manhattan GMAT, Test Magic, GMAT PREP Week 1: I started with OG 11 to get an initial feel for things. I gave just about 1-day for each topic (PS, DS, CR, SC and RC only). At the end of week 1, I managed to complete about 10-15 questions from OG 11 for each topic. This gave me a great ‘sense’ for each problem type on the GMAT. I divided all topics into one of 3 groups: a.I Suck :yuck:: I absolutely suck at these. b.Average :whistle:: I do fairly OK on these, but not quite GMAT-ready yet c.Awesome :grad:: I am my own standard here – bring on the GMAT! At the end of week 1, I rated myself at: I Suck: SC; Average: CR, DS Awesome: RC, PS My goal was to get all or most into the awesome bucket at the end of 2 months. Week 2 and Week 3: I did each of the above types in 2-hour slots. This gave me time for about 50-60 questions per slot, and about an hour of error-analysis. Error analysis and the mistake-scale: I cannot stress how important error-analysis is. In the past, people have tracked errors through different methods: from the basic and trusty writing-pad, to the Word Document, to the Excel Spreadsheet. I started off with a writing pad, and then graduated to an Excel spreadsheet. The advantage of a spreadsheet is that you can embed links to discussions on questions that you have erred on. My initial sheets were littered with links to test-magic discussion threads. It also goes well with doing OG and GMAT Set questions – almost every question is documented and discussed on Test-Magic. To measure performance, I focused on mistakes per 100 questions. IMO, the mistake scale (let’s call it the M level) is a good indicator of improvement while preparing. On a bad day, mistakes on key questions could lower your score by more points than you can imagine – and theoretically, it is hard to deliberately spread your mistakes. Mistakes follow essentially a randomized distribution – which means that you cannot control how they are spread over a 40-question test. It is best to try and minimize the total number of mistakes while preparing. Putting the spotlight on weak areas guarantees improvement. Week 4: Having gained sufficient accuracy in weeks 2 -3, my next focus area was speed. Timed conditions turn the GMAT-game on its head – most of us can do most questions given ample time. I started off by doing timed GMAT Sets (in batches of 40). I realized that my performance dipped slightly – since the 2 minute mark rather than deducing a solution now decided whether I needed to move on to the next question. It was not entirely unexpected – but again, more practice in Week 4 helped me get back to my original M-level. Weekend 4: On the weekend that followed, I decided to take GMATPREP 1. I got a 760 (Q50, V40), but more importantly, my M levels were: Q7, V11. There was a remarkable pattern on the mistakes: all Q mistakes were in DS, while 7 of 11 mistakes in V were in SC. Which meant that I needed to focus squarely on these 2 areas to improve my M-levels. With some more practice, my M levels would reduce even further. At this point I took the next available GMAT appointment - a month away. Week 5: More practice on all areas – though from GMAT Sets and OG only. Day Off At this point, I was feeling quite saturated with GMAT preparation. So I took a day off from the GMAT just to let my mind wander and refresh. It certainly helped – the next day, I was feeling recharged once again. Weekend 5: This weekend, I did 1 practice test (from Kaplan I think). My M levels were Q2, V15 (with more practice, my Verbal M levels should have dropped, if anything. I decided to discontinue practicing from Kaplan – it is too inaccurate an indicator). Week 6: At some point during this week, I attempted GMATPREP 2: My M levels were Q6, V3. It was certainly an improvement over GMATPREP 1. Issue: I also realized that I was having one issue in the quantitative section: at high-difficulty levels, I sometimes ran out of time on account of hard questions in the latter half of the CAT. The quality of hard questions on the GMATPREP was way above that of Kaplan or GMAT Sets. Resolution: I decided to look at 2 other sources: GMATClub and Manhattan GMAT. I purchased a 6-test set from Manhattan – and I had a fabulous experience. The hard questions on the Manhattan GMAT were sometimes tougher than those on the real GMAT / GMATPREP. My timing improved dramatically in the Q-section as well. To anyone wanting high-quality practice in 700+ level questions, I would recommend the Manhattan GMAT’s online test package. It is adaptive – so you get harder questions if you do well, and its results co-relate closely with my GMATPREP scores. Week 7 and 8: More Manhattan GMAT, and a little bit of GMAT Club, coupled with more error-analysis, and tracking M-levels. Score Tracker: Week 4: GMATPREP 1 (Q50, V40) (Q7, V11) à 760 Week 6: GMATPREP 2 (Q50, V47) (Q6, V3) à 780 Between Weeks 6-7: MGMAT 1: 730 (Q48, V41) MGMAT 2: 780 (Q48, V51) MGMAT 3: 740 (Q51, V40) MGMAT 4: 750 (Q50, V42) MGMAT 5: 740 (Q51, V39) MGMAT 6: 750 (Q51, V41) Strategies I Used:Practice doing full-length tests: The 4 weekends that led up to my GMAT, I made it a point to practice full-length tests from quality sources (GMATPREP and Manhattan GMAT). Doing an hour of AWA writing does affect stamina, and has a bearing on the performance. Keeping it fresh: Revisiting all quantitative problem types in the last few days: just to make sure that things remain fresh in my mind on the real test. Priming: I found this strategy to be highly fruitful – about an hour before you start your practice test, ‘prime’ your mind by attempting 4-5 questions Q and V questions. I compare it to like warming up the mind – when you start the test, your mind is already in top gear. I have noticed that if I do not do this, I spend more time with the first few Q questions – until I reach my full problem solving speed. Study in a pattern: I had booked an appointment for 9 AM. During the preparation stage, I was always up early and put in an hour in the morning before heading out to my office. This helped by tuning the mind to be at its test-taking best at that time of the day. Time yourself: There is an excellent spreadsheet floating around that lets you monitor the time you took for each question. I highly recommend it during the prep-stage. I was able to pin-point what questions I typically took more time with, and this helped me focus efforts. Use technology: Embed links on the same spreadsheet that you use to practice. This way, during crunch-time, you can simply look at your errors, and click on the links to be taken to a discussion on the question. M Levels: Focus on your mistakes. It’s OK to make mistakes – it’s not OK to make the same mistake multiple times. It means that you are not learning. Analyze your mistakes, and think of ways to prevent these from happening again. Quality over quantity: I tried to keep my question sources to the standard and accepted ones – GMATPREP, OG, GMAT Sets, GMAT Club and Manhattan GMAT. So I never had to bother about a ‘ambiguous question’ – one variable out of the equation!Cheers, ~vectorSpace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorSpace Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 I’d post my test-day experience in a separate sitting – this post is already quite long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbagrad Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Nice writeup and some really good pointers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charu_mulye Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Congratulations vectorspace... i have been reading your blog too..Best of Luck for the next step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep_142 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Good one.. enjoy man!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_mkumar Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 All the best for your second part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorelai Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Great Score!!! Congrats!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorSpace Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 Thank you all! This community has been a very useful resource, and I'd recommend it to anyone starting their GMAT preparation. Thanks to Erin and his team and the gurus (Bob, Spidey, etc), to whom I owe a lot to. I'm applying to B-school for the fall of 2008 - and have short-listed schools. If you'd like to keep in touch or read more, here is a link to my blog: Vector Space, and my email address is vectorspace101[AT]gmail[DOT]com. Cheers, and good luck! ~vectorSpace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohit.chetty Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Hey. Congrats dude. Im taking my test on august 23rd. can you tell me how useful MGMAT tests are? can i pay for it through my credit card and take the tests. considering i have less than a month for the actual test, how long will i take to get the tests after payment and all formalities? appreciate a quick reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronyricky Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 what is MGMAT:rolleyes:? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohit.chetty Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Manhattan GMAT. these tests are aparently second best to the GMATPrep for practice. i really wanna get them and take the tests. also the manhattan sc questions are supposedly very helpful. everyone all over seems to be talking bout it. so if anyone can help us out on this, would really appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmdmd63 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 what a score 51-you slaughtered the quanitative section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectorSpace Posted August 4, 2007 Author Share Posted August 4, 2007 Hi Rohit - MGMATs are web-only tests that are available at GMAT Prep Course Programs - Manhattan GMAT. I purchased a set of 6 online tests from them, and these helped me immensely. Bear in mind that these are often tougher on time than the real tests. cheers vector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohit.chetty Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Hi Rohit - MGMATs are web-only tests that are available at GMAT Prep Course Programs - Manhattan GMAT. I purchased a set of 6 online tests from them, and these helped me immensely. Bear in mind that these are often tougher on time than the real tests. cheers vector Hi vector, thanx for the info. ive registered and taken a test too. got a 720 in it. yeah i kinda found it a little hard in the time. couldnt finish quants comfortably. rohit v chetty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
continka Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 it's interesting information. thanks. congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmdmd63 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmdmd63 Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 you rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker-beliver Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Can someone please point me in the direction where i can download the sets - thanks in advance PS: does this sentence qualify for a SC ? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekamal Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Congratulations!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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