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    Some people believe that university students should be required to attend classes. Others believe that going to classes should be optional for students. Which point of view do you agree with? Use specific reasons and details to explain your answer.



    The issue of whether students should be required to attend classes or if going to classes should be optional is a controversial one. On the one hand, in order to achieve the best results in studying people have to be pushed by somebody. If students would have a choice between going to classes and partying, I think they would choose a second one. On the other hand, students who are willing to study will visit as many classes as possible, and if they do not go to certain classes is only because they use other activities for studying. However, in the final analysis, I believe that all students should be required to attend classes.

    One reason for my belief is that from the nature people are lazy. Studying is a hard work. Nevertheless that Aristotle once said, “The educated differ from the uneducated as the living from the dead,” people have to be motivated to study. When we are in the university, we meet many interesting people. The life of students is full of different activities such as sports, visiting friends and celebrating different events. Since studying requires much work, studying is not #1 activity that students would do if they would have that choice.

    Another reason for my belief is that students do not have the experience and knowledge that would help students to choose those classes that would be the most useful for them. Studying programs are made by professors and many people who had done much research about which classes would be the most useful for studying different subjects. For example, if people study Market of Economy and Management, they have to attend many classes that include mathematics, economy, etc. What would happen if somebody do not like calculus? Then he or she would not be able to graduate, or he or she would have not enough skills to be a good specialist in the economy.

    However, some classes should be optional. But these classes have to be an addition to the classes that are required. For instance, if one studies in the School of Business and wants to get a job in a particular finance area, then he or she should attend those classes that would be most helpful in order to obtain knowledge of the profession that he or she wants to get.

    For all these reasons I believe that university students have to be required to attend classes. However, there should be some addition classes that students could choose in order to increase their knowledge of the particular profession.

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    Some people believe that university students should be required to attend classes. Others believe that going to classes should be optional for students. Which point of view do you agree with? Use specific reasons and details to explain your answer.



    The issue of whether students should be required to attend classes or if going to classes should be optional is a controversial one. On the one hand, in order to achieve the best results in studying people have to be pushed by somebody. If students would have a choice between going to classes and partying, I think they would choose a second one. On the other hand, students who are willing to study will visit as many classes as possible, and if they do not go to certain classes is only because they use other activities for studying. However, in the final analysis, I believe that all students should be required to attend classes.

    One reason for my belief is that from the nature people are lazy. Studying is a hard work. Nevertheless that Aristotle once said, “The educated differ from the uneducated as the living from the dead,” people have to be motivated to study. When we are in the university, we meet many interesting people. The life of students is full of different activities such as sports, visiting friends and celebrating different events. Since studying requires much work, studying is not #1 activity that students would do if they would have that choice.

    Another reason for my belief is that students do not have the experience and knowledge that would help students to choose those classes that would be the most useful for them. Studying programs are made by professors and many people who had done much research about which classes would be the most useful for studying different subjects. For example, if people study Market of Economy and Management, they have to attend many classes that include mathematics, economy, etc. What would happen if somebody do not like calculus? Then he or she would not be able to graduate, or he or she would have not enough skills to be a good specialist in the economy.

    However, some classes should be optional. But these classes have to be an addition to the classes that are required. For instance, if one studies in the School of Business and wants to get a job in a particular finance area, then he or she should attend those classes that would be most helpful in order to obtain knowledge of the profession that he or she wants to get.

    For all these reasons I believe that university students have to be required to attend classes. However, there should be some addition classes that students could choose in order to increase their knowledge of the particular profession.

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    Hello, IRA!
    I really think you did a good job on your essay! I had an English-native speaker help me correct it for you, so that the corrections would be accurate. He is not a TOEFL prep teacher, but he knows all about essays... and corrects mine gladly too (the only problem - he has no idea of how to grade them in that TOEFL scale). Anyway, I took the TOEFL exam last Friday and the biggest problem I had was time. I am a slow writer, unfortunately…
    Did you manage to write all that in 30 minutes? If not, my tip is to practice that many times too.
    Anyway, good luck on your test.

    p.s. - I tried to send this message before, but for some reason it did not work (and it just quoted your essay). Let's see if it works now!

    "The issue of whether students should be required to attend classes or if going to classes should be optional is a controversial one. There are those who feel that in order for a student to achieve the best results while studying, they have to be pushed. If students would have a choice between going to classes and partying, I think they would choose the second one. On the other hand, students who are willing to study will attend as many classes as possible, and if they do not go to certain classes it is only because they use other activities for studying. However, in the final analysis, I believe that all students should be required to attend classes.

    One reason for my belief is that from the nature people are lazy (consider: One reason for my belief is that many people are intrinsically lazy). Studying is a hard work (got rid of Nevertheless that). Aristotle once said, “The educated differ from the uneducated as the living from the dead” (got rid of the comma after dead and put a period). People have to be motivated to study. When we are in the university, we meet many interesting people. The life of a student (got rid of the plural) is full of different activities, such as sports, visiting friends and celebrating different events. Since studying requires time and a lot of work, attending class may not rest atop the priority list if students would have that choice.

    Another reason for my belief is that students do not have the experience and knowledge (got rid of “that would help them”) to choose the classes that would be the most useful for them. Study curriculums (instead of studying subjects, because it is necessary to define the difference between a “class” and a “program”. A class is like subject, whereas a program is like and area or a field) are made (consider a word such as “assembled” instead of made, because the teacher does not really make it, more…put it together, although, made will work) by professors and administrators (got rid of many people) who have (got rid of “done”, you can just say “researched”) researched (got rid of about) which classes would be the most useful for studying different programs. For example, if people study Market of Economy (also known as either Marketing, or Economics depending on how you are translating) and Management, they have to attend many classes that include mathematics, economy, etc. What would happen if someone did not like calculus? Then he or she (consider “they”- unisex, or “he/she”) would not be able to graduate. If they did, he or she (“they” instead of he or she) would (consider “may” instead of “would”) not have enough skills to be a good specialist in their field.

    However, some classes should be optional. And, if so, these classes have to be an addition to the classes that are required. For instance, if one studies in the School of Business and wants to get a job in a particular finance area, then he or she (they) should attend those classes that would be most helpful in order to obtain the knowledge of that profession (deleted that he or she wants to get). (What you’re saying about studying in the school of business does not pertain to what you opened the paragraph with. You are saying that it is o.k. for a student to not attend classes in some situations. In your “For Instance, you do not support why, but instead, give another example of why a student should attend classes. Consider following profession with this: “Although, it may not be as important for the student to attend an elected class that does not pertain to their particular area of study”. Just remember, the corrector of your test will think that is important that a student attends every class including the elected ones because this will assure that they become a well-rounded student).

    For all these reasons I believe that university students have to be required to attend classes. However, there should be some additional classes that students could choose in order to increase their knowledge of the particular profession (your conclusion may sound a little redundant. Consider your strongest point, but don’t simply repeat it. Instead, try to enhance it with a moral reason. For example: “In conclusion, I feel as though there is a good reason why administrators and professors require students to attend classes. It is their experience that we rely on to learn and their advice that we should follow. If students did not need to attend classes in order to receive a proper education, then we would not need Universities. Of course, responsibility is a large part of this learning experience, and it is the choices that we make - to attend class or not - that will one day be a part of what will separate us from the rest”)."

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    Some people believe that university students should be required to attend
    classes. Others believe that going to classes should be optional for
    students. Which point of view do you agree with? Use specific reasons and
    details to explain your answer.

    University students sometimes talk about the choice of whether going to
    their classes or not. With regard to this controversial issue, although some
    people agree with the idea that university students should be required to
    attend classes, I have the negative opinion about it, in other words, I
    agree with the opposite idea that going to classes should be optional for
    students because it would provide students with more opportunities of
    experience and all of the students don't have wealthy parents.

    More than anything else, optional classes would provide students with more
    opportunities of experience. People generally agree with the idea that
    university is not the place to merely study. University must help students
    find their aptitude, talents, and plan their future. To support their
    behaviors, university should give students enough time to make it, but
    compelled classes don't allow it.

    The next thing i'd like to mention here is that all of the students don't
    afford to pay their tuition fee. Although most of students have a enough
    resources to attend university, there can be a few students and university
    should consider this minorities. If they are deprived of work time to
    classes, they might give up attending university. In this respect, university
    should not force students to go to classes.

    In conclusion, the question whether students should attend classes or not is
    given to me, I would say "No". University has a necessity of giving students
    enough time to think about their future and the question must be determined
    by the will of students themselves. In addition, it also has a possibility
    of students leaving voluntarily to make money.

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    hello ditoman!
    I got pleasure from your essay as usual .
    1. well organized
    2. logical
    3. nice
    Senteces are short and understandable.
    I always try to do same with my essays while writing.

    Good luck! [heartbeat]

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    hello ditoman!
    I got pleasure from your essay as usual .
    1. well organized
    2. logical
    3. nice
    Senteces are short and understandable.
    I always try to do same with my essays while writing.

    Good luck! [heartbeat]
    Thanks a lot, malena!!!

    I wish you had a lot of advances!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erin View Post
    Some people believe that university students should be required to attend classes. Others believe that going to classes should be optional for students. Which point of view do you agree with? Use specific reasons and details to explain your answer.
    Please help me with this essay.

    Nowadays, many students want to study by themselves, thus they think going to class should be optional. However I feel going to class is the better way for students.
    Firstly, in my experience many Vietnamese students instead of going to class they go to cafe, bar, go shopping…. So if going to class just an option, they will never going to class. They think they can discipline themselves, self-study however, in real it is rarely happen. As the result, they get bad score and their parents have to pay fee for their relearning.

    Secondly, at school students will get many things that they will never find in books or on the Internet. Teachers are not only the good guider who help students to understand lesson easier but also the ones who will give students useful information that is not show in books – it is their real experience in life. Besides, the government has invested the large of money to build school, library, laboratory… so if students do not go to school, it is vividly the big waste.

    In addition, classes are the environment for students to make friends. It’s where students can improve their communication skill. Moreover, they will learn how to work in group, cooperate with people and become more responsibility. It’s really helpful for students in their future carrier.

    In short, learning in class bring to students more advantages than studying by themselves. Hence, requiring students to attend class is very necessary. It is not only good for students but also for their parents and the university.

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    I appreciate your efforts in coming up with some notable ideas to substantiate your point of view.

    You have considered from a resource point of view that students should attend classes because these are what they or their parents have paid for.
    This is a good point, nevertheless, not as much irrefutable from the students' point of view. Taking the tuition as a sunk cost, why should I attend classes if they do not interest me? If there are something that students find something else more worthwhile to pursue, why forcing them to come to class? Yet, if our classes are the most worthwhile one, they would come be it compelled or propelled.

    This said, I do not deny that we have to make some classes mandatory so that students would not be bilked by some ephemeral, myopic indulgences as to sacrifice their gain in the long haul. Nevertheless, even if we force them to be seated in the auditorium, can we ensure that students are paying attention to what the lectures are about? After all, it is our responsibility to arouse students' interests so that they are being instilled not a sense of fear due to penalty from skipping classes, but a sense of compassion and commiseration that this is something that they should learn for the very benefit of themselves.

    Hope my couple of cents helps!

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