k_udct Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Hey I am a new member...What is the Paper tests... i am not sure about it...I only know of Power Prep Software...Can you tell me where i can get the Paper Power Prep Tests... Kiran Used only ETS paper tests, no PR etc Paper test scores: 610, 650, 630, 740, 680, 690 in that order Real test after about a month of paper tests: 700 (Q42, V45) IMO, paper tests are the best way to prepare, as they are actual tests that include the scaled scores and should be deadly accurate if timed. The real GMAT (CAT) can be a bit more unnerving due to the fact that you get a harder question after getting the previous one correct, etc. My strategy for the Quant section (my weaker subject) was to realize that, unlike on the ETS paper tests, once you get to a tough question it sometimes pays to take a quick guess and bring the level of questions down a bit. Otherwise, if you're intent on solving questions above your level of difficulty, you will waste too much time and fail to complete the section. I think that the CAT is a more accurate assessment of skill level because the paper tests allow for a wide range of possible scores depending on the success of guessed answers, while the CAT "reigns in" your guesswork a bit. Those of you with 99% Q scores don't need to think this way, of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quercus Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Can someone tell me how to get the Kaplan Diagnostic test? I bought the Kaplan book, but the one without the CD and all it has is practice questions in the front -- a lot of them -- and a full length paper test in the back. Is that the diagnostic test? Or do I have to purchase the other book with the CD? The cover of the book says, "Get more practice and help online - a $50 program FREE!" but going to the Kaplan site, it's not immediately evident what they're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yappee Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 The book should include the CD, which has 5 tests in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_adroja Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Hey Gmat2003, I was going through your post and had a question for u. When u say ETS Test #55: 660... so u mean the pdf version of it in which the test is divided into various sections? If yes, i wanted to know that while taking ETS test do u follow the time limt in each section and solve it in the order they appear, or do u do all verbal sections together in the total time limit of all verbal sections & the same with Quant sections? Also I noticed that the time limit is not really like the actual GMAT exam 75 mins for both sections. Can u pls tell me what u followed? thanks Adroja. Recent: Actaul: N/A Test 37: 740 Test 48: 710 Test: 42: 730 Test 52: 710 Test: 25: 740 800score Test #3: 720 Past scores: Actual: 640 800score: 590 Princeton: 690, 670,710, 710 Kaplan: 550, 560, 620, 540 ETS Test #55: 660 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmccown Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I had the same question. Also, when grading your ETS paper test you are "docked" a fraction of a point for incorrect answers...does this happen on actual GMAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quercus Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 It turns out there are two books, one with the CD (sells for $37), one without (sells for $20). I purchased the latter, without the CD. I just exchanged it for the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tghokie Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Took GMAT earlier this week - 700 (q 42 v 42) I was surprised - my practice scores were lower: Powerprep 1 - 590, PP2 -660 (1 week prior) PR - 640, 620, 600 (I think their verbal tests are not good practice) Kaplan - Diagnostic - 640 , Test 1 -580 I liked the Kaplan Math review workbook and the PR math workbook (even though there are some wrong answers in it I like the way they solve ratio problems) I am not too good with math Could have done better on the Quant if I had studied harder - but I'm never taking that test again - too much stress :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalim Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Real 610 [Q 47, V27] Kaplan: 710, 680, 710, 670 PR: 660---680 PP:68, 680 [without doing OG] Actually, I was hoping something around 700. With such expectation, 610 is a very disappointing score. I don't know what happened? I started up very well with essays...Quantitative seems to be relatively easy...I don't know what happened in verbal. I used to score from 35 ... 40 in verbal in practice tests...may be some initial wrong answers or whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tghokie Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 Zalim - you probably had an odd reading comprehension section or two - I took the LSATs a few years ago and in my practice tests i was scoring in low 160s but had a hard reading comp section that brought down my score from my practice tests significantly& I usually do very well on reading comp - LSAT lets you see what questions you got right and wrong on your score report - anyone know if GMAT lets you see what answers you got right/wrong? I haven't gotten my score report yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmatchris Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 Hey All- I just discovered this site this past week, so I haven't been able to contribute to the discussion but thought I would post my results/advice. Real GMAT: 680 (Q42, V41) Very disapointed in the math score, was not expecting a 50, but was thinking more of 45ish. I studied for about 2.5 months, but more seriously in last 6 weeks. I didn't study the verbal at all, just on the practice tests (obviously, needed to spend more time on the math). Below are the results of my practice tests in order: Kaplan Diagnostic: 590 Kaplan (non - CAT): 660 Kaplan CAT #1: 540 Kaplan CAT #2: 540 Kaplan CAT #3: 540 PowerPrep #1: 720 Kaplan CAT #4: 570 Kaplan CAT #5: 580 PowerPrep #2: 710, after the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] although I think something was wrong with the scoring on this test because I got nearly 100% of the questions correct but still got a 710?? As others on this site have noted, the Kaplan scores are not at all indicative of the real thing. I do, however, recommend taking the kaplan tests. The questions tend to all be multistep questions and will help out with the timing. I did go through just about all of the math in the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] and I have an opinion that differs from that of some people on this forum. My advice would be to do the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] math as a warm up, but do yourself a favor and find more challenging math material elsewhere. THE MATH IN THE [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] is MUCH EASIER THAN THE MATH ON THE REAL GMAT. I realize the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] is comprised of old GMAT questions, but only the baby questions. Once I got to problem #5 on the real thing, the problems were already harder. Thanks to others on this site for the study tips, I did use a bunch of them. Thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spkapileshwar Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Real GMAT : 740 Kaplan and PR Diagnostic (before any prep) – 680/700 Kaplan CAT 1 (during books prep) – 640 Kaplan CAT 2 (during books prep) – 630 Kaplan CAT 3 (during books prep) – 630 PR CAT 1 (during books prep) – 690 PR CAT 2 (during books prep) – 700 PR CAT 3 (during books prep) – 670 Power Prep1 (before any prep) – 700 Power Prep 2 (2 days before the test) – 780. This may be skewed, because I did this after [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip]. Kaplan CAT 4 (day before the test) – 700 GMAT Paper tests (8 in all, after all books) – 740-800 (range) Here is my prep plan and other information: http://www.www.urch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19555 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibali Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 hi all i am preparing for GMAT and getting scores like these in the practise tests PR online tests ( 550 to 570) PR CD (550 to 580) Kaplan Online CAT - 560 Kaplan CD CAT 1 - 560 ETS paper tests 650-670 PP 1 after finishing [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] -620 AND my target score is 600. Now i have few questions. 1. I heard that PR tests r easier than Kaplan then y my scores are not higher in the PR tests ? Are PR test scores reliable ? I am confused . I heard PR tests r easier than GMAT too. 2. Wat is my prob of getting a 600 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyamidoingthis Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Kaplan CAT1/2/3/4 = 560/580/600/580 Power Prep : 730/720 Actual GMAT 730 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey3737 Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Actual GMAT 730(Q46, V44) Practice Tests (in order taken): Kaplan Diagnostic 690 (Q41, V45) Kaplan CAT 1 600 (Q36, V36) Kaplan CAT 2 580 (Q34, V36) Power Prep CAT 1 700 (Q44, V41) Power Prep CAT 1 720 (Q47, V42) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmatGnat Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 GMAT: 730 (Q49 V40) Practice exams (in no particular order): Kaplan diagnostic exam: 660 (Q45, V41) Kaplan online exam: 690 (Q51, V33) Kaplan practice exam: 740 (Q48 V50) Kaplan 1: 730 (Q42 V40) Kaplan 2: 700 (Q44 V39) Kaplan 3: 780 (Q50 V50) Kaplan 4: 730 (Q46 V40) PowerPrep 1: 670 (Q42 V40) PowerPrep 2: 690 (Q44 V40) PowerPrep 1 (again): 770 (Q50 V46) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jin00V Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Real1:670 test score: none.(I hadn't still finish the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] yet at that time) Real: 760(Q50,V42) test score: KAPLAN diagnostic test-730(I can't remember the exact scores of the two parts, but the score of Q was lower and M was little bit higher than actual scores. My Q score can be ignored cous I just selected some answers randomly....My only concern was verbal...) Prep: none.(I just used this for adapting the font size of RC.) My thought:kaplan test is good to indicate your status... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNAMAN Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Real GMAT - 740 (49Q, 41V) PP1 - 700 PP2 - 750 (after [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] except DS) Kaplan CAT - 570, 580, 560, 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alakshma Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 GMAT: 760 (99 %ile) Q 50 (95 %ile) V 42 (96 %ile) Practice tests Week Test Q NumberWrong V NumberWrong (SC/RC/CR) Score 1 Princeton Diagnostic 48 2 39 7(2,4,1) 730 3 Kaplan Diagnostic 47 2 40 9 (6/2/1) 720 4 PP1(before OG) 51 0 42 7(2/3/2) 770 5 Kaplan1 50 3 37 12 670 6 Peterson1 50 3 57 7(2/3/2) 790 6 Kaplan2 50 3 36 12(2/5/5) 650 7 Kaplan3 50 1 35 13 650 7 Peterson2 50 3 39 7 690 8 PP2(after OG) 51 0 45 3(2/1/0) 780 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abelhna Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Hello guys, My name is Aniss and I'm from the Kingdom of Morocco... Practice Tests: The first test on the GMAT CD: 620 The second test: 650 (two weeks of preparation) Real GMAT: 610........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmanoj99 Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 GMAT: 710 (94 %ile) Q 47 (81 %ile) V 40 (91 %ile) Practice tests Kaplan1 - 540 Kaplan2- 550 Kaplan3- 630 Kaplan4- 570 Online Kaplan - 700 Online Princeton - 580 Practice Tests (28,37,48,52,55) - 600 to 650 PP1( After OG) - 750 PP2(After OG) - 740 Real GMAT - 710 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskanna Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 This is my first post although I have been an ardent follower of the forum. This is a great site and owe a good part of my score to it. Thank you everyone :) Just finished the test: 710(q49, v 38). What a rush! I never scored above 700 even on a single practice score. So all of you there, floating in the 600s , don't be disheartened. Just live in the present and do what you do best. Results will follow :) CAT Practice Scores in order(time to actual GMAT shown in parenth): ------------------------------------------------------------------- Princeton_1 - 690 (8 weeks) Kaplan_1 - 550 (7 weeks) Kaplan_2 - 560(6 weeks) Kaplan_3 - 580(5 weeks) Powerprep_1 - 640 (4 weeks) - before doing the OG Kaplan_4 - 590(3 weeks) Arco_1 - 680(2.5 weeks) Arco_2 - 680(2.0 weeks) Arco_3 - 670(1.5 weeks) - half of [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] completed Powerprep_2 - 670 (1.5 weeks) Kaplan_5 - 620(1 week) Princeton_2 - 670(4 days) Princeton_3 - 650(2 days) Preparation: ------------ 3 months while working full time. Weekdays - atleast 2 hours everyday. Weekend - total of 12-14 hours. The single biggest thing that I felt worked for me is "doing my thing" and that was simply focus on one question at a time and solve it. Forget about scores and percentiles etc... Just focus on the question and get it right. As you can see, I never scored above 700 on a practice test, but manged it on the actual one - so dont even bother about practice test scores - they should rather aid you in identifying and correcting your weaknesses. Meanwhile never, never ever forget or loose practice in your strengths. Rely on your strenghts toward the end, be it quant or verbal. On test day it is your strengths that will bail you out. About couple of months ago, I read a post that said "OG is the bible". For some reason, I just followed it and trust me there is no better bible than the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip]. I did each and every question within the last 20 days or so. Every day I made a sample test (35 questions or so on each section) and solved them. The actual questions on the test will be very similar to the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip], hence if you know the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip], you will do well. Forget the past, forget the future, live in the present - you will see the score what you want my friend :) Thanks, Kanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkris Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Real GMAT: 710 (Q49, V37) PowerPrep: 630 , 700 GMAT Paper Tests: 680 Kaplan: 620 (Diag), 560, 560, 600, 600 Princeton Review: 540 (Diag), 550, 560 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Kaplan = 550, 560, 570 Princeton = 590 Petersons = 640 Only Ets Test Paper Taken So Far = 800 (!!!! => May Be Becoz I Completed Most Of Og Already) I Suck At Princeton N Kaplan Tests... Yet To Take My Real Gmat...any Comments Welcome :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilgar Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 In there considerable difference between the 8th and 10th edition of OG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boston_75 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I got 580 on my diagnostic test (Barrons-13th edition) 1. I got 25/41 on verbal and 29/37 - what percentile would this be.? 2. I am concerned with my low score, is this typical on a diagnostic? Will I be overshooting, if I am aiming for 750 and starting with 580 on diagnostic. Any comments, advice, info would be appreciated. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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